in portland now, just finished the powell's book store q&a. thanks for coming to the l.a and seattle and portland events! oh, some things about 'gristle'
in portland now, just finished the powell's book store q&a. thanks for coming to the l.a and seattle and portland events! oh, some things about 'gristle'.
1 'gristle' isn't a vegan book. miyun and i are vegans, but our goal in putting out 'gristle' is solely to draw attention to the consequences of animal production. 'gristle' is an informative book, but hopefully not a didactic or editorializing book. we just want to make the information available and then let people decide what they want to do with it, if anything. i'm a vegan, but 'gristle' isn't. it's just a little encylopedia of the consequences of industrial animal production.
2 one of the recurring questions we've heard is 'veganism is expensive, how do you expect working families to eat well?' the answer: remove subsidies. our tax dollars subsidize factory farms and animal productions, from the feed to the water to the transport, etc. if all federal tax subsidies were removed from factory farm animal production a family of four would spend around $80 to have a meal at burger king. meat is cheap solely because it's subsidized by our tax dollars. the answer: remove subsidies and let factory farmed meat actually be subjected to free-market economic conditions. the sad and tragic irony of federal subsidies for animal production is that our tax dollars go to subsidize an industry that: destroys animals, destroys communities, is dangerous for workers, decimates the environment, and yields a product (meat)that causes cancer and heart disease and diabetes and obesity. it's hard to say that it's money well spent.
3 a sort of vegan aside... i was talking to a friend of mine who is a staunch meat eater, and he said 'vegan food, ew, gross, and no flavor'. so i said: 'a challenge. for one month you eat meat and i eat vegan food, ok?' he said: 'ok, sounds awesome.' i said: 'so that means for one month you have: no ketchup. no pepper. no onions. no bread. no french fries. no orange juice. no pasta sauce. no pasta. no rice. no vegetables. no spices. no garlic. no fruit. no ice cream (sugar and chocolate and vanilla are vegetable products). no candy. no bacon (as it's spiced with plant products). no sausage (as it's spiced with plant products). just unflavored meat and dairy.' since then he hasn't said that vegan food is tasteless and gross. i often wonder: if vegan food is tasteless then why is it an integral part of making meat taste good?
4 ok, that's it for now, i guess. hopefully see you in nyc or dc at the 'gristle' events there. thanks,
moby
you dont see
you dont see my pain do you?
hey
I overdosed I actually tried to commit suicide. How does that make you feel?
hey
you want to bet?
I will I will.
yo
PaulSalopek I am commiting suicide. I am be a going to be a suicide bomber. You rather win an award than to care about my feelings. I will hurt a lot of people when I die.
yo
PaulSalopek I am commiting suicide. I am be a going to be a suicide bomber. You rather win an award than to care about my feelings. I will hurt a lot of people when I die.
Disorganized Thinking
Look I know I have disorganized thinking and Supernatural schizophrenia came up. I dont know What trust in auditory hallucinations? I'm not going to get the job. No Gould Farm No spring lake Ranch Just on ssi for now. Yes I have a mental disability. I am very upset with Paul Salopek. SOme friend he was. I delete things I'm not feeling well. Linda Lynch you guys arent heroic to me. You rather win some award than to care about a suicidal person.
My feelings don't count
WHat? You're going for Noble Peace Prize in LIterature? I can't take the loneliest feeling anymore. It hurts tremendendsly when Paul Salopek does not talk to me. He makes me very suicicdal at times. SO What I know I'm Julia's Friend. In my heart I don't know what to do. I think of suicide often though I dont do anything. I hate Paul Salopek more than I love him. I hate Omega too. Some Hyprocyrates who dont want schizophrenia in the work place. I doubt my potential. So what So what Darfur, I'm afraid of suicide bombs I'm afraid of religion. I'm schizophrenic and I'm talking to a voice who doesnt count. I know there's genocide going on. I cant pick my religion because everyone is always there to judge. Disorganized thinking? I know I'm not going to get a job. No GOuld Farm no Spring Lake Ranch. I messed up my life. I'm suicidal. On line yea. Did I tell you I was lonley? Moby. Paul Salopek and I will never be lovers. Paul Salopek and I will never be friends. AN AMerican Schizophrenic stay away from Bill RIchardson. It doesnt help when I say suicidal you look away.
I delete things
Moby,
I act harshly sometimes. What I'm being Dancing Rachelle to Paul Salopek and He's not communicating to me. This is something higher. I'm restless in my cage. No social interaction besides on line. I text Ann Curry to say yes Peace Guild. But what am I doing? I'm classified as a schizophrenic and I want to take part of activism on line and beyond. My soul wants places like Gould Farm or Spring Lake Ranch but I can't seem to find myself employable to them. It might be my online behavior. I'm restless being a Peace Guilder and schizophrenia is my choice of duty. Not Yoga Not Aids But Schizophrenia. I'm separated from my peers and I delete things. I'm not a scholar. Yes you know of my frustration my ish to be Julia Butterfly Hill of Sahus. I wish to meet Paul again. I wish for Mental Health Week at Omega Institute. I wish...
I delete things
Moby I was an internet stalker
yes
What happened was a journalist asked me if I ever met Paul Salopek on Facebook as If all I was was an internet stalker. So I deleted Paul's Page and wrote to John of God ANd you Moby. I pissed John Of GOd Off. I dont think he's happy with me. I dont think you're happy with me too moby. I wrote Somebody about Noble Peace Prize which I was all about till that journalist pissed me off. OKAy I did love Paul Salopek with all my heart. I have no idea where he is and if he's a true writer. If someone loves me unconditionally of not. I'm sorry Noble Peace Prize I doubt my intellect. I'm trying to be this Peace Guilder and My focus is schizophrenia, yoga is taken. I'm trying to be a supernatural reiki master and rage is not a good thing rage is so not a good thing. I'm quietly persistent. I'm sorry Noble Peace Prize. MOby.... Moby... MOby... Moby...
I hear you out on your veganism
suicide
FUCK THAT
PAUL SALOPEK
MISTAKE
MISTAKE
Philly or Newark, DE
How can we get you to the UD campus or to Philly itself to promote the book?
Wait for me
I have found out about the competition a week ago and am doing an animation for the song.. but since Easter is right before the deadline, there are very few chances that I'll ever finish on time.... and I would really love to enter :-(
Would it be possible that you extend the contest deadline with a week or two?
Even if you don't, I want you to know I'm a big fan.. and I would love you to see it even if I don't make it in time, is it ok if I'll put it on youtube when finished and link you to it?
Hi Moby!
Long time no see...!
This is an important issue to bring up. Especially how we treat our animals.
In 1995 I quit eating meat. I did it for the animals, when I realised that I take part in the bad treatment of them if I eat them. Later on I ate fish and turkey. Then again no meat only vegetarian. Today I eat what God gives our family...even meat. That's only temporary... I could go fishing...
The yesterdays LHC beams colliding was really hard on my physics. In the morning I didn't know anything about it and was feeling unusually fatigued and a totally psychic wreck the whole day. I slept in the afternoon and couldn't realize why I was so tired. Then after that I heard about the LHC. It was the same when they first started this game...The scientist-boys and gals. In the evening and the night I was so dizzy and my husband also, but today I feel "normal" again. Thanks God.
Well, I guess somebody has to do the hardwork...
This might be a well kept secret. I hope Barack won't get angry with me. Well, we'll see. ...
Last night I "visited" The White House in Washington US. Barack told me and some others that a small one is on the way to the White House. I guess he meant a baby...
I want to congratulate to the dreambaby anyway. Barack is such a good father. My guess is that it is a boy...
Even the water tastes mud when the melting snow is mixing with the spring water in our well. I wonder if I should boil it. I mean boil the water..before drinking it. The water is yellow and dark..
Hope you don't mind me putting this out here. Because I would like to just to wish you a good day with this song by Susan Boyle. Does anybody elses eyes get wet when listening to her? She is a goddess. And I feel victorious.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4BvBkTmDWBA
Susan Boyle: I Dreamed A Dream - Britain's Got Talent 2009 - The Final
Have a wonderful day! From Cariño
I'm acting like an idiot
If I told you my dreams would you laugh? I know there are scars on my face but grant me a romeo and dough even Tyra Banks would be in the know. I know I'm shy and Not really not worth it to some. I'd show you my dream. It's just a dream. Till Then I'm a farm girl. It's silly Moby and I might piss Katie Holmes and Tom Cruise off. I really did hear Katie Holmes and I really do have telepaty. If you don't like John of God That's okay. I'm schizophrenic. I do want to be you friend. I know Paul Is over me and I dont want to get people upset. I miss you.
interesting info about why humans first started eating meat
I read somewhere that humans first started eating meat during an ice age, in order to survive in regions where it was no longer possible to grow or gather enough plants for food.
So now that the ice age is over, and sometime before the next ice age begins, we can all most probably survive OK without meat eating.
MOby
MOby It's real Put me in a dance club and I'll prove it to you. But my Sahu is Katie Holmes and no I'm not being Delusional. It's a dream. I look like Bjork. And everyone could get piss off and Judge. Put me in a dance club with a mask and I'll prove it to you.
I want to tell you how I feel
If I could audition for you I would. My ultimate dream is to be an electronica dancer and get my scars removed and be the face of Cover Girl or Mac. I would be Misty rawhide and I would dance like Janet Jackson And be your friend or your lover. That is my ultimate dream. I would sound like Sade and Janet Jackson. I would be schizophrenic and be socialing with Pulizter Prize. If I had the money that is what I would be. I'm Jizzles girl though.
DancingAngelRachelle
DancingAngelRachelle - hon, you've spent 2 years trying to get Mo's attention by spending countless hours posting on various sites. That's 2 years you could have spent on a REAL relationship with a REAL man rather than a fantasy. I know your "friends" on MySpace coddle you whenever someone criticizes you but YOU NEED HELP. Sound familiar?: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histrionic_personality_disorder
Your son needs you more than Moby does - do it for him and get some professional help so you can get over this unhealthy obsession with Moby.
Hello!
Just discovered you- probably because I'm too old to be a part of not only your music scene, but blogs, Facebook, Twitter, etc. Perhaps, I will learn.
Wanted you to know that I saw you in the NYTimes and was blown away by your down-to-earth, grounded interview. I kept thinking, "Wouldn't it be great to know this guy!" I wish you were my neighbor or young friend or that I worked with you. I wish you were the guy my unmarried daughter would bring home for me to meet.
I hope I don't sound like some pathetic, lonely old lady type. I just wanted you to know how much I enjoyed reading your thoughts. I may even stay tuned to your website. Maybe I'll check out your music.
I'm very much looking forward to receiving my copy of 'Gristle'
-my love!!!!! I didn't realize exactly what the book was about until I read this journal. So thank *you* ever so much for explaining in more detail specifically what it is about my dear fellow Vegan. Angel Kisses xxxx
1. A little encylopedia of the consequences of industrial animal production is an encylopedia that has been needed for many centuries. Thank goodness *you* and Miyun made such come to be my darling Angel. @>-->--
2. *You* have a way of helping me to understand very complex things. Thank *you* for your ongoing efforts to teach me about government subsidizing and such my very intelligent ever so loved angel Mo. Muaz x's
3. There are so many wonderful vegan foods out that taste better than meat. I hope and pray more people will at least give a vegan or vegetarian diet a try.
Thank *you* for all of your loving & caring efforts to help out humanity Mo darling.
I Love *You* & I'm ever so proud of *You*,
Your Eternal Love Rachelle, Lil Brayden & Pets
xxxx
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Conscientious meat eater
I totally agree with you about the consequences and difficulties of mass meat production, that the subsidy of it is wrong (much like the subsidies for mass automobile infrastructure, gasoline, etc). I do still eat meat, but I make sure that it comes from small, local farms that feed and treat their animals well. After all, what my chicken eats, I also eat. I do not want my meat to be irradiated, or chemically treated or full of hormones.
Buying meat (and produce) locally both means that the farms don't need to use these crazy methods to preserve the food for long-distance travel and long shelf life, but it also supports the economy in your local city/state, which is especially important in a time when our economy is struggling. Pour your dollars where it matters and support local small farmers rather than gigantic food-factories, it's a complete win-win situation.
I take you point about hidden
I take you point about hidden financial costs to meat production, but are you not being slight disengenious to leave out the fact that the US also subsides other crops.
Excuse my use of Wikipedia (http://bit.ly/cenmLl) but roughly 30% of US agricultural subsidies are spent on wheat and rice. While this does not compare to the amount spent on feed grains removal of all subsidies would also raise the price of vegan food substantially...
Unless of course the free market is extended to the poorer countries in the world and US citizens can benefit from cheaper food imports.