i was surprised at the right wing response to my post about mccain releasing his medical records.
some points:
a-he did not release 1200 pages of his medical records. he let a few people look at his 1200 page
medical records. he let them look for an hour and they weren't allowed to take notes or document
anything. that to me is the sign of someone who has something to hide. the people who looked said that there
were definitely signs of serious health problems, but they needed more time to go over the documents.
the documents have since been under lock and key.
b-we are essentially 'hiring' john mccain to be chief executive of the united states. it's a very important
position. if you ran a company would you hire a 72 year old with an extensive history of health problems to a 4 year contract without looking
at his health records? and how would you feel if the 72 year old adamantly refused to let
you see his 1200 page health records?
in asking to see john mccain's health records i'm not attacking him. i'm merely stating that it's common sense to want
to see the health records of someone running for president who is older and has a history of serious health problems, especially
if medical professionals have en masse stated that his health problems might prevent him from finishing his term
in office.
i'm not a doctor, but the 30,000 doctors who signed a document expressing grave concerns about senator mccain's health
would seem to know what they're talking about.
there's a simple way to make this issue go away, and that is for senator mccain(and all of the candidates)to release
their health records.
moby
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here's a proposal:
if team mccain provides complete access to his medical records, would obama provide complete verification of his citizenship?
The current birth certificate posted on his campaign website was debunked by various experts in documents, genealogy and graphics to be a forgery.
There are some doubts about the veracity of obama's claims given the discrepancies and his inability to produce documented evidence that would hold up in a court of law (see berg vs. obama).
(youtube has many videos on this)
the u.s. constitution is very clear about the requirements or prerequisites to qualify to be president.
using moby's logic in demanding for documentation as part of our "interview process", would it not be in our best interest to know if obama is even legally qualified to run?
if obama can't locate his original, authentic Birth certificate, would he allow the media and voters access to other pertinent records such as his college files which may offer more clarification on his background?
You're wrong on this one.
Don't get me wrong. I do not want that ticket to win.
However, private health records are not public consumption.
They're just not. You can argue, "But, it's for the highest position in the land," and it still wouldn't be right.
And you know that.
Come on, Moby. Take a deep breath and relax...
la li la. And you're drivin'. And you're drivin'. NOT NOW!
it's always good to source your information if you can
hey moby, great to see more posts from you about this
although I'm not an american citizen and don't I live there, I know that there are american citizens in many other parts of the world who can still cast their vote for their preferred presidential candidate over there. the media here is covering the campaign over there and, yes, I'd like to pass some of this information on.
however as I write this, I don't know what your sources are for the information that you've included. I'm supposing that before the media will pick up a story, they'll have to have specific information sources, other than "moby the wonderful musician posted this these pertinent pieces of information in his online journal"
I might be wrong. what you have included might be sufficient because my guess is that a few quick searches on the internet will bring up quite a bit about this.
I'll go and do a search myself after I've posted this comment and let you know if I get any good results.
in future though, if you would like some of us to pass information that you post in your journal on to the media, it would be good if you could source your information as much as possible. for this, it would be good to know how you know about the 30,000 doctors who signed a document expressing grave concerns about senator mccain's health for example.
anyway I'll just go off and do a google search and see what I can find
love questions...
sorry, moby..but i also found a discrepency in the number. good argument, good points. don't think sourcing is necessary for journal/diary entries...it doesn't fit. love questions...J-
no but sourcing is necessary for the media and he asked us to
no, sourcing information isn't necessary for an online journal, and if moby were to provide all the sources for his information, it would change his writing style into something different from what it currently is.
it's just that he asked us to pass the info on to the media. prior to that, I had made a reference back to an early post of moby's about mccain's medical record, and I'd encouraged him to pass that kind of pertinent information on to the media (along with the bit about mccain having been involved with a group with documented ties to neo-nazis). maybe he read my comment and then encouraged us to approach the media about it instead.
well yeah I might just do that. however it will take a bit more work on my side, because i wouldn't want to call up a newsroom sounding like i don't really know what i'm talking about. i'd want to take the more professional approach, which (without information sources from moby) will take more work. maybe i'll be able to squeeze it in to my schedule somewhere. maybe.
can't find anything quite specific enough via a google search
one of the most relevant pages I could find on a quick google search was -
www.huffingtonpost.com/tag/john-mccain-medical-records
anyway, I wasn't able to find anything that I think would be appropriate for adding into an information package for forwarding on to the media. i must admit i've never passed information on the media myself before and i can't say i know for sure what the requirements are.
all i can find on a google search is other media items (some of them at a quick glance seeming say that mccain's medical records show he is in a fit state to become president of the usa and some of them say the opposite), and i doubt that "this newspaper has this to say about john mccain's medical record" and "this is what moby has to say" would be sufficient enough to get taken up by a news room. if you can let us know a bit more about your own information sources, that might help. otherwise i'll try ringing one of the news rooms to pass on the information that you've given and i'll see what they say.
it's the economy moby!
FACT: Mccain released his medical records in late may 2008 for a very brief examination by the media, medical experts and other groups (in 1999, mccain granted access to 2,500 pages of his medical records. the recent 2008 release covers updates)
fact: contained within the records are very serious patterns of a patient in poor health despite the clean bill of health endorsed by the mayo clinic and dr. sanjay gupta of cnn
fact: the leading cause of death among men in this country is heart disease
fact: mccain has a history of high cholesterol, smoking and poor dietary habits
fact: as a risk factor, there are correlations between high cholesterol and dementia based on numerous studies
fact: obama has released only his partial personal medical records (a "summary statement" much like mccain's which doesn't incude "chest x-rays", ECHOCARDIOGRAM, functional mri analysis, hair samples for drug testing) and has yet to release his academic and professional records as well
fact: obama is a habitual smoker and an admitted cocaine user
opinion: the crisis du jour gripping this country is the damaged economy not the health records of a losing candidate
Exactly! I can't believe the
Exactly! I can't believe the people who were saying it was crass. They do it to every presidential candidate. Their health is um.. kind of important.
all of your points are very valid
I'm surprised that it's not a law already that a candidate has to release their medical records, after all, it is a law that they have to release their taxes, no? I think it's equally as important to know the odds of your candidate of choice being actually able to physically do the job for the full term elected rather as it is know their finances.
That's right!
Moby, you are damn right about this! McCain has been looking shaky and his "memory" problems look like onslaught of dementia.
"Be patient towards all that is unsolved in your heart and dreams, try to love the questions themselves."
- Rainer Maria Rilke
Moby, you are damn right
Moby, you are damn right about this! McCain has been looking shaky and his "memory" problems look like onslaught of dementia.
"Be patient towards all that is unsolved in your heart and dreams, try to love the questions themselves."
- Rainer Maria Rilke